Demis Hassabis & Josh Woodward tell us why Gemini 3.0 puts Google in front of the A.I. race

Today we have a special segment on the release of Google’s Gemini 3 A.I. model. Demis Hassabis and Josh Woodward, two of the heads of Google’s A.I. efforts, join us to discuss Gemini’s new capabilities, A.I. scaling and how Google got its A.I. groove back.

For more on this episode, visit:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/18/podcasts/hardfork-gemini-3.html

Guests:
Demis Hassabis, chief executive and co-founder of Google DeepMind
Josh Woodward, vice president of Google Labs and Google Gemini

Further reading:
The Man Who ‘A.G.I.-Pilled’ Google
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/23/podcasts/google-ai-demis-hassabis-hard-fork.html

Google Unveils Gemini 3
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/18/business/google-gemini-3.html

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