The Trust Battle: Stablecoins, Crypto and the Future of Money (with Ali Abou Daya and Morva Rohani)



For centuries, the power to create money was isolated to traditional issuers, who built trust over the ages. But now stablecoins are starting to pull at that monopoly, rising up in relevance as a massive innovation on infrastructure. Some jurisdictions are turning things upside down with digital asset adoption, while others are holding back, with important geopolitical implications.ย 

On season twoโ€™s opener, hosts Vass Bednar and Paul Samson welcome Ali Abou Daya and Morva Rohani to discuss the emergence and transformative nature of crypto and stablecoins. Ali is the chief executive officer of Transactix Financial, a stablecoin company, and Morva is the executive director of the Canadian Web3 Council, an industry organization that advocates for responsible public policy. Together the four consider the digitalization of traditional finance, and the challenges surrounding establishing trust and who controls what.

Mentioned:

โ€ข Satoshiโ€ is the author of a 2008 white paper entitled โ€œBitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash Systemโ€; see also Joshua Davis, โ€œThe Crypto-Currencyโ€ (The New Yorker, October 3, 2011)
โ€ข โ€œBitcoin maxisโ€: see Tonya M. Evanโ€™s โ€œThe Bitcoin, Not Crypto, Debate: Why Words Matterโ€ (Forbes, August 21, 2024)
โ€ข For more on El Salvadorโ€™s experience with bitcoin, see Robyn Wilsonโ€™s โ€œThe Salvadoran beach town that became a Bitcoin testbedโ€ (BBC, July 1, 2025)
โ€ข Nigeriaโ€™s central bank digital currency: www.firstbanknigeria.com/personal/ways-to-bank/e-naira/
โ€ข Tether setting up physical HQ in El Salvador: Federico Maccioni, โ€œCrypto firm Tether and its founders finalizing move to El Salvadorโ€ (Reuters, January 13, 2025)
โ€ข For comparison of transaction costs by analyst Eric Yeung, see his April 20, 2025 X post: โ€œThe Final Showdown Between China and the U.S.: The Battlefield Shifts from Military Hegemony to Global Currency Warfare.โ€ Yeung is a Hong Kongโ€“based precious metals and investment expert who posts daily analysis on X.
โ€ข The GENIUS Act (in full: Guiding and Establishing National Innovation for U.S. Stablecoins Act) became US public law in July 2025 to provide for the regulation of payment stablecoins: www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-bill/1582/text
โ€ข โ€œMiCA and the European Unionโ€: see Markets in Crypto-Assets Regulation
โ€ข Daniel Day-Lewis played Daniel Plainview in There Will Be Blood, a 2007 film based on Upton Sinclairโ€™s 1927 novel Oil!
โ€ข โ€œThe milkshake exampleโ€ refers to โ€œClay Christensenโ€™s milkshake marketingโ€

Further Reading:ย 

โ€ข Ali Abou Dayaโ€™s bio: www.linkedin.com/in/aliaboudaya/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliaboudaya/)
โ€ข About Transactix Financial: (https://www.linkedin.com/in/morvarohani/?originalSubdomain=ca) www.transactix.ca/about (https://www.transactix.ca/about)
โ€ข Morva Rohaniโ€™s bio: www.linkedin.com/in/morvarohani/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/morvarohani/)
โ€ข About the Canadian Web3 Council: https://web3canada.ca/about/
โ€ข For more analysis on the evolving role of digital assets, including central bank digital currencies, cryptocurrencies, stablecoins and tokenized assets, within the broader context of the global financial system, see CIGIโ€™s project Digital Assets in a Deglobalized World (https://www.cigionline.org/activities/digital-assets-in-a-deglobalized-world/)

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